NO LOGS VPN: Best VPN for clear and dark web
by Crockett - Thursday July 27, 2023 at 04:43 PM
#41
Thanks. Very useful.
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#42
(07-27-2023, 04:43 PM)Crockett Wrote: This topic on the forum mentions ExpressVPN, NordVPN, CyberGhost, Surfshark, and PIA as the best VPNs for the dark web, but I beg to differ and completely disagree. ExpressVPN was once a great VPN service provider, but it is now owned by Israeli spyware and malware distributor firm, Kape Technologies. The same goes for PIA VPN; it was indeed one of the best as well before it was sold to Kape Technologies. Funny enough, CyberGhost is also owned by Kape Technologies. 

I don't know how anyone in their right mind would list these companies when a known spyware firm owns them. So, these VPNs are straight-up spyware on your device. 

NordVPN is owned by Nord Security, which is based in Lithuania, so since it is in the EU, I would expect some decency and privacy from them. Surfshark merged with Nord Security in 2022, so using Surfshark or NordVPN does not make any difference. HOWEVER, the VPN I use has a proven track record of not keeping logs; therefore, there is no sharing of logs and no affiliate marketing. They were recently raided by Swedish police (since they are based in Sweden), who went back to their bunkers empty-handed because there was nothing to share.

This VPN has recently collaborated with Tor Project to release a privacy based browser. It's the famous:

lets ssssssssssssssssssssseee
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#43
if you want a secure VPN, set up your own virtual server and use a proxy to it.
every VPN provider is going to sing and hand over data to government officials at some point or if not, then they will experience a data leak..
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#44
What about proton or mullvad vpn?
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#45
Mullvad is the one most people use and recommend so I would suggest using that Smile
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#46
(10-04-2023, 08:42 AM)xaxa Wrote: Mullvad is the one most people use and recommend so I would suggest using that Smile

Definitely. Proton and Mullvad best choice IMO.
No amount of observations of white swans can allow the inference that all swans are white, but the observation of a single black swan is sufficient to refute that conclusion.
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#47
(10-04-2023, 09:36 AM)blackswan Wrote:
(10-04-2023, 08:42 AM)xaxa Wrote: Mullvad is the one most people use and recommend so I would suggest using that Smile

Definitely. Proton and Mullvad best choice IMO.

Yeah use proton they give data to the feds Smile

Good choice sounds good to me!
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#48
(10-04-2023, 09:41 AM)xaxa Wrote:
(10-04-2023, 09:36 AM)blackswan Wrote:
(10-04-2023, 08:42 AM)xaxa Wrote: Mullvad is the one most people use and recommend so I would suggest using that Smile

Definitely. Proton and Mullvad best choice IMO.

Yeah use proton they give data to the feds Smile

Good choice sounds good to me!

Is mvad still safe?
No amount of observations of white swans can allow the inference that all swans are white, but the observation of a single black swan is sufficient to refute that conclusion.
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#49
(10-04-2023, 09:58 AM)blackswan Wrote:
(10-04-2023, 09:41 AM)xaxa Wrote:
(10-04-2023, 09:36 AM)blackswan Wrote:
(10-04-2023, 08:42 AM)xaxa Wrote: Mullvad is the one most people use and recommend so I would suggest using that Smile

Definitely. Proton and Mullvad best choice IMO.

Yeah use proton they give data to the feds Smile

Good choice sounds good to me!

Is mvad still safe?

Mullvad could have been, and maybe even still is, lying about how they operate

Do they have anything on me?

     One xmr transfer
     IPs where I'm connecting from (if they are lying and storing them)
     My traffic (if they are lying and storing it)
     My unencrypted traffic (if they are lying and storing it)

Do they have on us?

     Email? - nope
     Phone number? - nope
     Credit card? - nope
     My first name, family name? - nope
     My address? - nope
     My mother's maiden name? - nope

Because we never provided it to them because they never asked for them.
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#50
(10-04-2023, 10:02 AM)zehq Wrote:
(10-04-2023, 09:58 AM)blackswan Wrote:
(10-04-2023, 09:41 AM)xaxa Wrote:
(10-04-2023, 09:36 AM)blackswan Wrote:
(10-04-2023, 08:42 AM)xaxa Wrote: Mullvad is the one most people use and recommend so I would suggest using that Smile

Definitely. Proton and Mullvad best choice IMO.

Yeah use proton they give data to the feds Smile

Good choice sounds good to me!

Is mvad still safe?

Mullvad could have been, and maybe even still is, lying about how they operate

Do they have anything on me?

     One xmr transfer
     IPs where I'm connecting from (if they are lying and storing them)
     My traffic (if they are lying and storing it)
     My unencrypted traffic (if they are lying and storing it)

Do they have on us?

     Email? - nope
     Phone number? - nope
     Credit card? - nope
     My first name, family name? - nope
     My address? - nope
     My mother's maiden name? - nope

Because we never provided it to them because they never asked for them.

Awesome explanation. Cool
No amount of observations of white swans can allow the inference that all swans are white, but the observation of a single black swan is sufficient to refute that conclusion.
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