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(10-31-2024, 03:19 PM)reflex Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:00 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: (10-31-2024, 02:42 PM)reflex Wrote: (10-31-2024, 02:02 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: (10-31-2024, 01:46 PM)reflex Wrote: I guess you're right, but married people seem happier than singles
Of course, who wouldn't be happy with someone they love? 
I agree with you 100% 
But I would say, that a relationship without the need to marry can be just as wonderful, some people treat marriage like an inescapable contract
About 60% of people see marriage just like you described—as an inevitable contract. But I think, my friend, marriage is more than a contract. I look at my married friend and then at myself, and despite being married, his life seems better than mine. Maybe people go through a mental shift when they get married
I think it's all about perspective reflex, you can be happy no matter where you are, but it seems as though your personal truth is that being with someone is the best life, so go get it!
But also consider, what you see, might not always be whats going on, your friends life could SEEM better, but there could be things hidden.
Life is jut wonderful in all its complicated ways of working things out
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(10-31-2024, 03:19 PM)reflex Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:00 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: (10-31-2024, 02:42 PM)reflex Wrote: (10-31-2024, 02:02 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: (10-31-2024, 01:46 PM)reflex Wrote: I guess you're right, but married people seem happier than singles
Of course, who wouldn't be happy with someone they love? 
I agree with you 100% 
But I would say, that a relationship without the need to marry can be just as wonderful, some people treat marriage like an inescapable contract
About 60% of people see marriage just like you described—as an inevitable contract. But I think, my friend, marriage is more than a contract. I look at my married friend and then at myself, and despite being married, his life seems better than mine. Maybe people go through a mental shift when they get married
If it makes you feel better, lots of people get a divorce anyway
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11-01-2024, 06:09 AM
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(10-31-2024, 03:24 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:19 PM)reflex Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:00 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: (10-31-2024, 02:42 PM)reflex Wrote: (10-31-2024, 02:02 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: Of course, who wouldn't be happy with someone they love? 
I agree with you 100% 
But I would say, that a relationship without the need to marry can be just as wonderful, some people treat marriage like an inescapable contract
About 60% of people see marriage just like you described—as an inevitable contract. But I think, my friend, marriage is more than a contract. I look at my married friend and then at myself, and despite being married, his life seems better than mine. Maybe people go through a mental shift when they get married
I think it's all about perspective reflex, you can be happy no matter where you are, but it seems as though your personal truth is that being with someone is the best life, so go get it!
But also consider, what you see, might not always be whats going on, your friends life could SEEM better, but there could be things hidden.
Life is jut wonderful in all its complicated ways of working things out
You're absolutely right, my friend; it all depends on perspective. When someone’s single, they’re really just living for themselves and can spend their money however they want. But once that person gets married, it’s like they mature because now they have a family to support. They can't spend money however they please or live as freely—they have to think of their family. I think that means they're slowly facing life and maturing. What do you think?
And yes, you're right—marriage can look good from the outside, but there may be hidden issues. But isn’t that the whole point of marriage? To face life’s challenges together? Once, I was talking with a 42-year-old relative who had been married and divorced twice, and he told me this about marriage: 'Marriage is like a fortress; those on the outside try to get in, and those on the inside try to get out.'
By the way, debating with you is awesome!
(10-31-2024, 03:26 PM)McHuggy Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:19 PM)reflex Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:00 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: (10-31-2024, 02:42 PM)reflex Wrote: (10-31-2024, 02:02 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: Of course, who wouldn't be happy with someone they love? 
I agree with you 100% 
But I would say, that a relationship without the need to marry can be just as wonderful, some people treat marriage like an inescapable contract
About 60% of people see marriage just like you described—as an inevitable contract. But I think, my friend, marriage is more than a contract. I look at my married friend and then at myself, and despite being married, his life seems better than mine. Maybe people go through a mental shift when they get married
If it makes you feel better, lots of people get a divorce anyway
You misunderstood me; I didn't bring up this topic because I want to get married
A 42-year-old acquaintance of mine who had been married and divorced twice once said this about marriage: 'Marriage is like a fortress; those on the outside try to get in, and those on the inside try to get out.' Most people who are married want a divorce, while most single people want to get married. Am I wrong?
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While a career can’t cuddle, maybe you can marry someone who supports your dreams—and then you can both conquer the world together! ?
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(11-01-2024, 06:09 AM)reflex Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:24 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:19 PM)reflex Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:00 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: (10-31-2024, 02:42 PM)reflex Wrote: I agree with you 100% 
But I would say, that a relationship without the need to marry can be just as wonderful, some people treat marriage like an inescapable contract
About 60% of people see marriage just like you described—as an inevitable contract. But I think, my friend, marriage is more than a contract. I look at my married friend and then at myself, and despite being married, his life seems better than mine. Maybe people go through a mental shift when they get married
I think it's all about perspective reflex, you can be happy no matter where you are, but it seems as though your personal truth is that being with someone is the best life, so go get it!
But also consider, what you see, might not always be whats going on, your friends life could SEEM better, but there could be things hidden.
Life is jut wonderful in all its complicated ways of working things out
You're absolutely right, my friend; it all depends on perspective. When someone’s single, they’re really just living for themselves and can spend their money however they want. But once that person gets married, it’s like they mature because now they have a family to support. They can't spend money however they please or live as freely—they have to think of their family. I think that means they're slowly facing life and maturing. What do you think?
And yes, you're right—marriage can look good from the outside, but there may be hidden issues. But isn’t that the whole point of marriage? To face life’s challenges together? Once, I was talking with a 42-year-old relative who had been married and divorced twice, and he told me this about marriage: 'Marriage is like a fortress; those on the outside try to get in, and those on the inside try to get out.'
By the way, debating with you is awesome!
(10-31-2024, 03:26 PM)McHuggy Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:19 PM)reflex Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:00 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: (10-31-2024, 02:42 PM)reflex Wrote: I agree with you 100% 
But I would say, that a relationship without the need to marry can be just as wonderful, some people treat marriage like an inescapable contract
About 60% of people see marriage just like you described—as an inevitable contract. But I think, my friend, marriage is more than a contract. I look at my married friend and then at myself, and despite being married, his life seems better than mine. Maybe people go through a mental shift when they get married
If it makes you feel better, lots of people get a divorce anyway
You misunderstood me; I didn't bring up this topic because I want to get married
A 42-year-old acquaintance of mine who had been married and divorced twice once said this about marriage: 'Marriage is like a fortress; those on the outside try to get in, and those on the inside try to get out.' Most people who are married want a divorce, while most single people want to get married. Am I wrong?
I absolutely love that Fortress analogy, thats PERFECT.
I also love debating you too reflex, you've been incredibly insightful and also very generous with your content you share too, a top member of the board imho...
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(11-01-2024, 11:31 AM)breached2299 Wrote: Married men earn more than those who prefer to stay single.
You are absolutely right; under normal circumstances, it should be the opposite
(11-01-2024, 10:28 AM)breachxyz Wrote: While a career can’t cuddle, maybe you can marry someone who supports your dreams—and then you can both conquer the world together! ?
Marrying someone who supports your dreams is wonderful, but first you have to find that person. It's not the marriage that's the problem; finding the right one is difficult
Did you know that Genghis Khan, who conquered half the world, also agreed with you? He said, 'If a man has a woman who truly loves him behind him, there is nothing he cannot do.' Of course, many girls today don't value men as much; if you don't have money, that might be why many men today can't realize their potential. What do you think
(11-01-2024, 11:07 AM)DredgenSun Wrote: (11-01-2024, 06:09 AM)reflex Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:24 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:19 PM)reflex Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:00 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: But I would say, that a relationship without the need to marry can be just as wonderful, some people treat marriage like an inescapable contract
About 60% of people see marriage just like you described—as an inevitable contract. But I think, my friend, marriage is more than a contract. I look at my married friend and then at myself, and despite being married, his life seems better than mine. Maybe people go through a mental shift when they get married
I think it's all about perspective reflex, you can be happy no matter where you are, but it seems as though your personal truth is that being with someone is the best life, so go get it!
But also consider, what you see, might not always be whats going on, your friends life could SEEM better, but there could be things hidden.
Life is jut wonderful in all its complicated ways of working things out
You're absolutely right, my friend; it all depends on perspective. When someone’s single, they’re really just living for themselves and can spend their money however they want. But once that person gets married, it’s like they mature because now they have a family to support. They can't spend money however they please or live as freely—they have to think of their family. I think that means they're slowly facing life and maturing. What do you think?
And yes, you're right—marriage can look good from the outside, but there may be hidden issues. But isn’t that the whole point of marriage? To face life’s challenges together? Once, I was talking with a 42-year-old relative who had been married and divorced twice, and he told me this about marriage: 'Marriage is like a fortress; those on the outside try to get in, and those on the inside try to get out.'
By the way, debating with you is awesome!
(10-31-2024, 03:26 PM)McHuggy Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:19 PM)reflex Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:00 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: But I would say, that a relationship without the need to marry can be just as wonderful, some people treat marriage like an inescapable contract
About 60% of people see marriage just like you described—as an inevitable contract. But I think, my friend, marriage is more than a contract. I look at my married friend and then at myself, and despite being married, his life seems better than mine. Maybe people go through a mental shift when they get married
If it makes you feel better, lots of people get a divorce anyway
You misunderstood me; I didn't bring up this topic because I want to get married
A 42-year-old acquaintance of mine who had been married and divorced twice once said this about marriage: 'Marriage is like a fortress; those on the outside try to get in, and those on the inside try to get out.' Most people who are married want a divorce, while most single people want to get married. Am I wrong?
I absolutely love that Fortress analogy, thats PERFECT.
I also love debating you too reflex, you've been incredibly insightful and also very generous with your content you share too, a top member of the board imho...
Thank you, my friend
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(11-01-2024, 12:34 PM)reflex Wrote: (11-01-2024, 11:31 AM)breached2299 Wrote: Married men earn more than those who prefer to stay single.
You are absolutely right; under normal circumstances, it should be the opposite
(11-01-2024, 10:28 AM)breachxyz Wrote: While a career can’t cuddle, maybe you can marry someone who supports your dreams—and then you can both conquer the world together! ?
Marrying someone who supports your dreams is wonderful, but first you have to find that person. It's not the marriage that's the problem; finding the right one is difficult
Did you know that Genghis Khan, who conquered half the world, also agreed with you? He said, 'If a man has a woman who truly loves him behind him, there is nothing he cannot do.' Of course, many girls today don't value men as much; if you don't have money, that might be why many men today can't realize their potential. What do you think
(11-01-2024, 11:07 AM)DredgenSun Wrote: (11-01-2024, 06:09 AM)reflex Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:24 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:19 PM)reflex Wrote: About 60% of people see marriage just like you described—as an inevitable contract. But I think, my friend, marriage is more than a contract. I look at my married friend and then at myself, and despite being married, his life seems better than mine. Maybe people go through a mental shift when they get married
I think it's all about perspective reflex, you can be happy no matter where you are, but it seems as though your personal truth is that being with someone is the best life, so go get it!
But also consider, what you see, might not always be whats going on, your friends life could SEEM better, but there could be things hidden.
Life is jut wonderful in all its complicated ways of working things out
You're absolutely right, my friend; it all depends on perspective. When someone’s single, they’re really just living for themselves and can spend their money however they want. But once that person gets married, it’s like they mature because now they have a family to support. They can't spend money however they please or live as freely—they have to think of their family. I think that means they're slowly facing life and maturing. What do you think?
And yes, you're right—marriage can look good from the outside, but there may be hidden issues. But isn’t that the whole point of marriage? To face life’s challenges together? Once, I was talking with a 42-year-old relative who had been married and divorced twice, and he told me this about marriage: 'Marriage is like a fortress; those on the outside try to get in, and those on the inside try to get out.'
By the way, debating with you is awesome!
(10-31-2024, 03:26 PM)McHuggy Wrote: (10-31-2024, 03:19 PM)reflex Wrote: About 60% of people see marriage just like you described—as an inevitable contract. But I think, my friend, marriage is more than a contract. I look at my married friend and then at myself, and despite being married, his life seems better than mine. Maybe people go through a mental shift when they get married
If it makes you feel better, lots of people get a divorce anyway
You misunderstood me; I didn't bring up this topic because I want to get married
A 42-year-old acquaintance of mine who had been married and divorced twice once said this about marriage: 'Marriage is like a fortress; those on the outside try to get in, and those on the inside try to get out.' Most people who are married want a divorce, while most single people want to get married. Am I wrong?
I absolutely love that Fortress analogy, thats PERFECT.
I also love debating you too reflex, you've been incredibly insightful and also very generous with your content you share too, a top member of the board imho...
Thank you, my friend 
You are always welcome reflex
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A lovely quote from my queen Marilyn Monroe <3
And she was exactly right
One of my biggest motivations & driving force is the need to be able to provide for the people I love.
I think everyone needs love, however in todays day and age you'll struggle to even be in a relationship without either having money or a career.
You should stay single until you're able to sustain yourself, as being in a relationship is expensive. As Marilyn once sang "diamonds are a girls bestfriend" and that is still (if not more) relevant in todays age.
However don't fall into the trap of ending up with someone who only loves you for your money.
Maybe if you have an understanding partner it'll work, but depending on what country you're based in, it'll be significantly harder to get in a relationship without a career/money I believe.
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Man thats a hard question. I think it depends on your personality. Personally I think I would be lonely and depressed if I didnt have someone, but many people fill their time with other things they enjoy doing
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(11-01-2024, 10:18 PM)ST_13 Wrote: A lovely quote from my queen Marilyn Monroe <3
And she was exactly right
One of my biggest motivations & driving force is the need to be able to provide for the people I love.
I think everyone needs love, however in todays day and age you'll struggle to even be in a relationship without either having money or a career.
You should stay single until you're able to sustain yourself, as being in a relationship is expensive. As Marilyn once sang "diamonds are a girls bestfriend" and that is still (if not more) relevant in todays age.
However don't fall into the trap of ending up with someone who only loves you for your money.
Maybe if you have an understanding partner it'll work, but depending on what country you're based in, it'll be significantly harder to get in a relationship without a career/money I believe.
You're right, everyone needs love. There's an anonymous saying: 'The world was ruined by the wars of people who grew up without love.' You know, people who haven't been loved for years eventually stop needing it. Just like Swain said, 'A child who sees nothing but hatred mistakes it for love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqPTbS9HFgg
A one-and-a-half-minute short film illustrates how important love is
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