Are we overpopulated or are we starting to be underpopulated?
by Pan - Wednesday June 26, 2024 at 06:59 AM
#11
(06-26-2024, 08:15 PM)Crockett Wrote:
(06-26-2024, 12:38 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: I'm beginning to think that the population isn't the problem, it's the distribution. There is enough for everyone to go round, there's plenty of land too, it's just those who get more ... just don't want to share...


Plus having kids is fucking expensive too, I doubt people want that kinda hole in their bank account...

Well said!Distribution of wealth and resources is a problem. The planet itself is empty when it comes to using areas that can be utilized to create new cities and even countries.

Adding to @DredgenSun said vvvv:

We are not over populated. There are countries like india and china that maybe over populated but it can work out with new cities and China is doing just that.

America:

I was reading a while ago that Americans waste 38% of all the food in the country. Moreover, people waste 92 billion pounds of food annually, equal to 145 billion meals. They throw away over $473 billion worth of food annually.

Stats: https://www.feedingamerica.org/our-work/...food-waste

The UK:

The UK throws away around 9.5 million tonnes of food waste in a single year – even though 8.4 million people in the UK are in food poverty.

Stats: https://www.businesswaste.co.uk/food-waste-the-facts/

India:

A new United Nations Food Waste Index Report estimates that Indian households waste 78.2 million tonnes of food every year despite India housing the world's largest hunger-population.

Stats: https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/...yr-says-un

I mentioned these countries as 2 of them are developed while india has more population than both of them. So imagine if these fucks can stop wasting food and other resources distributed properly, there is proper free healthcare (it's in the UK and all over Europe), and new cities are built. This will also solve the so-called migration crises which the Americans and Europeans whine about so much.

Crockett here with some fuckin' FACTS baby!

Very interesting to see how much is wasted, considering that it's still a crime to take from supermarkets waste disposal, consciously knowing they're gonna throw the shit away, and would rather have stuff in landfill for nothing, than giving it to people. That right there, is where we're going wrong. All efforts in the 21st century MUST have a return, and would rather see waste than giving stuff away.
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#12
This is a serious problem. Many times, the population shows negative growth.
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#13
It's a very complicated subject and I don't know how to explain it, right
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#14
underpopulated. we need more white people
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#15
(06-26-2024, 12:38 PM)DredgenSun Wrote: I'm beginning to think that the population isn't the problem, it's the distribution. There is enough for everyone to go round, there's plenty of land too, it's just those who get more ... just don't want to share...


Plus having kids is fucking expensive too, I doubt people want that kinda hole in their bank account...

People exchange the hours of their life for money.
Is the problem that the people who've done that are greedy? Greedy in not giving away their life hours to others.
Or is the problem that the slothful are greedy in asking others to give up their life hours so they can avoid work?
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#16
(07-09-2024, 07:01 PM)onanist Wrote: underpopulated. we need more white people

man don't tell me that's Richard Ramirez on your profile pic Big Grin Big Grin
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#17
(07-10-2024, 06:42 AM)Pan Wrote:
(07-09-2024, 07:01 PM)onanist Wrote: underpopulated. we need more white people

man don't tell me that's Richard Ramirez on your profile pic Big Grin Big Grin

it is richard, he is so hot haha.....
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#18
(07-10-2024, 09:48 AM)onanist Wrote:
(07-10-2024, 06:42 AM)Pan Wrote:
(07-09-2024, 07:01 PM)onanist Wrote: underpopulated. we need more white people

man don't tell me that's Richard Ramirez on your profile pic Big Grin Big Grin

it is richard, he is so hot haha.....

when it comes to serial killers, Ted Bundy is quite the charmer also lol
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#19
This is ChatGPT answer :

The topic of global fertility rates and population dynamics is indeed a complex and multifaceted issue with significant implications for societies, economies, and the environment. Here are some key points to consider:

1. Global Fertility Trends
Declining Fertility Rates: Many developed countries, such as those in Europe, Japan, South Korea, the United States, and China, are experiencing declining fertility rates. This trend is often attributed to factors like increased education and workforce participation among women, urbanization, economic pressures, and shifting societal values regarding family size.
High Fertility Rates in Developing Regions: In contrast, many countries in sub-Saharan Africa continue to have high fertility rates. This can be linked to lower access to education and healthcare, cultural norms, and economic factors that encourage larger families.
2. Population Aging and Economic Impacts
Aging Populations: Countries with low fertility rates face the challenge of aging populations. This demographic shift can strain public pension systems, healthcare services, and social support structures, as a smaller working-age population supports a growing number of retirees.
Economic Growth: Population growth is one of the drivers of economic growth, along with productivity improvements. A declining population can lead to a smaller labor force, potentially reducing economic output unless compensated by productivity gains or increased immigration.
3. Government and Policy Responses
Pronatalist Policies: Some countries are implementing policies to encourage higher birth rates, such as offering financial incentives, parental leave, and support for childcare. Examples include France and Sweden, which have relatively higher fertility rates among developed countries due to such supportive measures.
Immigration: Another strategy to counteract declining birth rates is to increase immigration. Immigrants can help bolster the working-age population and contribute to economic growth, although this approach can also come with social and political challenges.
4. Societal and Cultural Factors
Changing Family Structures: Societal shifts, such as delayed marriage and childbearing, increased divorce rates, and a preference for smaller families, are influencing fertility trends. In many developed countries, young people prioritize education and career over starting families early.
Role of Women: Greater gender equality and women’s empowerment are crucial factors. As women gain access to education and employment opportunities, fertility rates often decline, reflecting a change in life priorities and opportunities.
5. Environmental Considerations
Sustainability: High population growth can exacerbate environmental challenges, such as resource depletion, pollution, and climate change. Conversely, declining populations can reduce pressure on the environment but may also impact economic growth and innovation.
6. Future Projections and Uncertainties
Long-Term Trends: According to projections, global fertility rates are expected to continue declining, reaching a TFR of around 1.8 by 2050 and 1.6 by 2100. This suggests that many countries will need to adapt to a future with smaller, older populations.
Uncertainties: Predictions about future fertility rates are subject to uncertainties, including potential changes in social norms, economic conditions, government policies, and technological advancements that could influence reproductive behavior.
Conclusion
The dynamics of global fertility rates and population growth are deeply interconnected with economic, social, and environmental factors. Addressing the challenges associated with these trends requires a multifaceted approach, including supportive policies for families, strategic immigration, and efforts to enhance productivity. Balancing the needs of aging populations with sustainable economic growth and environmental stewardship will be key to navigating the demographic shifts of the coming decades.
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#20
Eh I mean population is what it is and some kind of eugenics solution could very well be a very bad solution (especially if you're not a fan of the government) so what's left is making do with what we have. Environmental policies and resource distribution would do wonders on earth's carrying capacity. Either way, though, people are either going to starve or not and we'll hit an equilibrium eventually.
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